E's Surf Report

As per the weekend leftovers:

Brian - What you had to say about Sf Surf Shop and John Schultz sounded a lot like skil-100 envy to me. I've been around for a long time, traveled all over the world and have met all kinds of people; John Schultz is one of the finest people I have ever had the privilege to know. In spite of whatever shortcomings he may have and any demons he has had to face, he has made a real contribution to our community - and I don't just mean the so-called "SF surf scene." BTW - your sloppy typing, confused spelling and overall atrocious language skills show a distinct lack of self-respect and seriously hobble your credibility. Hopefully the rest of the folks here will take note of that, consider the source and ignore your chicken-shit, mean-spirited nonsense.

blakestah - Good for you for standing up and setting the record straight. As usual, your ability to simply state the facts provides the most powerful argument.

BVB - I hope you stick around this here cyber spot - your usually no b.s. take on the issues at hand is a real benefit. But you gotta learn to relax a little, buddy. Don't let the finks and the fuck-wads get to you so hard.

e - Thanks for this morning's perspective. Genius inspires.

2nd again

Hey Brian,
You can't talk about people this way.
Jhon is a good guy.Full time father,shaper/glasser/owner of surf shop and takes care of his ill mom.
My name is Rich owner of Rickland surfboards.
I shape 4 to 6 boards per week.I been working with top shapers. Including John Shultz.
You think making a surfboard is easy .
Took me almost 7 yEARS OF LEARNING PROCCES TO BE WERE i'M AT NOW.
tHANKS TO JOHN THAT HELP ME OUT FOR FEW MONTHS WHEN I DECIDED TO GO BACK INTO THE SHAPING CARRER.
NOW A BIG ADVICE , SELL YOU KOOK TRUCK AND LEAVE TOWN.
I'm pretty sure you already got a lot people upset.What a freaking joke.
Hey blake this guy thinks he's so good...He should start he's own brand company.
I will call it Brian f150surfboards. get your boards from me in 1 to 2 days. If you don't buy from me I will talk trash about you in niceness.
hahaha.
What a kook.
What do you say blake.
Rickland

I say I had fun surfing this morning....speaking poorly of others, even those like brian, is rarely karma spent well.

Looks like a good week for swell...

:^)

I have had 5 boards from John and I have known him since he opened the shop. All of those boards where epic worth the wait.

He desreves more repect from kooks like Brian, who can't turn a board to save his life.
Brian, you are a kook and your black truck is weak like your mind and ego.

Nice words lately E. whad i miss?

article about surfline/online surf reports in santa cruz sentinal

i agree with BVB. wax brian's windows until they lump up. flatten all 4 of his tires. what an asshole.

In relation to e's comments this am re achiving mastery at the expense of oneself (and potentially others) here is a link to a new movie comming out about Truman Capote who "sold" his soul to become the best..

crime and punishment rocks!
sf surfshop is core and john shapes good boards.
saturday was fun. i hooted and stared. i ate sh*t, kooked out, and scored.
my schultze 6'6" pintail's got a ding i need to repair before friday. gonna get me some this weekend. not at ob.

e, consider adding blakestah to the masters list?

tried in vain to locate an oneil psycho XLT on sale over the weekend...anybody got a line on that?

prodigy or practice?

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hmm, try this one than

You missed one...

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i only had one board shaped by John at SF surfshop so far, but my experience getting it was great. for me, one of the benefits of deaing with any small business is the likelihood of getting personalized treatment. i've only gotten one board from john, but he shaped it exactly to specs and delivered it on time (5-6 weeks).

brian, you also probably got some personalized treatment from john - exactly the kind of treatment deserved by a dim-witted hard-on lacking in basic social skills. hope you continue to reap what you sow, asshole.

Imagine what BVB could do if he used his energy for good.

damn.. that little grom can play some DRUMS!! holy shite!! cool that he thanks Tony Williams too.. Tony williams was the man!

Blakestah yes a master of forecasting and a master of exposing. He cannot contain himself but must constantly stroke his own ego at the expense of long time locals who have payed their dues, so he can say I told you so, "look at me!" Yes good for you for standing up for a local shaper at the troll of a kook, shame on you for the rest.

The probelm is his forcast relates to one beach, one very fickle beach, unlike surfline or the rest of the reports. So comments like "banner day" "great week for swell" etc. drives the masses. Can't we just surf and not talk about with our 1000's of internet breathren until well after the fact? Obviously these sites are better connected in to the community here than one imagines.

"Also, Surfline takes pains not to call out individual beaches.

"We could sit here and go, ?Wow this is a great swell for Fullers or Moss Landing or Natural Bridges,? " he said. "We could just kill it, but if we did that we could send a 1,000 people there, and that would be really irresponsible."

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p.s. - this website isn't the place to air a person's personal business, be it someone's drug use OR their sobriety, imho.

Hey Mig,
I bought an XLT a few weeks ago. Wore it the second time yesterday. I thought I was buying an XL, noticed yesterday when taking if off that it was an XLT. (It was on an XL hanger) Stupid me for being in a hurry and firing up the green prior to purchase.

I've got receipt etc. Would part for half price as I'm going to buy the right size. I bought it on sale, so your half price from the sales price is a good one.
I work in Palo Alto and live south from here.

bvb, I don't agree. First of all, there was essentially no quality forecasting prior to the early 90s. There was no earning your respect for figuring out swells. You woke up, checked the winds, and then went and looked. The internet changed that. High quality one week forecasts of weather information are provided by a half dozen government agencies.

So when you say this is intruding on long-time locals.....who do you mean? The forecasting information itself is new. When you moved up here from LA this info was not around, and you couldn't earn it from thousands of trips to the beach. There is no amount of effort you could have put into determine what the winds were doing 3000 miles away. I know b/c I lived someplace else and was constantly trying to figure out waves there. But it got a LOT easier with the net.

All I do is condense Internet available information into a format more understandable to some surfers. The limiting step, though, is the presence of weather info on the Internet. You could shut me down, but Mark Sponsler offers very comparable, if not better, forecasts. Shut both of us down and Victor Dejesus and Sean Collins will still be there forecasting and touting their webcams. Shut all of them down and you still have the raw models, Wavewatch III and the FNMOC meteorological models.

It's the presence of the models on the internet that changed things. I am merely one of many conduits for that information. Inconsequential in the long-run, of that I am quite sure.

The end of the world is nigh! the internet has taken over!!! run for the hills!!

To the bodyboarder who whacked me in the face with his sponge as we were going for a wave that he thought was a left, and I a right: sorry man, but damn.

I agree with BVB we're all dicks

On the subject of crowds i sat in front of an empty left that kept on coming this morning in front of the zoo. by empty i mean no one was surfing it.

For all the bitching and moaning about the forecasting, I surfed solo Sat morning from 6:30 to 8:30 at a "popular" ob break. There were a couple guys out about 50 to 100 yards north of me. The waves were overhead and glassy. The weather was sunny. I don't get it... still. As for the daily reports, well I've usually finished surfing before they hit the sites.

steamwand - I absolutely agree, airing someone else's personal business in such a public forum is wrong. However, I gotta defend blakestah's comment about our friend's sobriety as an appropriate response to vicious attack by a third party.

obloc - I gotta say that I agree with a lot of what you say. Without commenting on any forecaster's individual personality, I must admit that I have serious concerns with the effect that the internet forecasting has had on crowding at Ocean Beach (sorry Dave, it's just the way I feel). But I think the quote from Surfline is total b.s. Surfline gives detailed, daily reports on individual spots. When it's on, they shout out everywhere, including Ocean Beach. And I know it's been discussed here at GREAT length, but, IMHO, cell phones in the parking lots at the north and south end and all along the Great Highway do far more damage than the internet.

Bstah-
I totally disagree with your statement. There was a lot of information out there pre internet via various government agencies. In the 80’s when we would go offshore to fish tuna from NorCal out to the South Pac, you think we were blind? When we would fish the Bering Sea all winter, you think we were blind? “you woke up and checked the winds” ???? I am stunned at how wrong you are.

The difference is they would not serve it to you on a platter. You had to learn what the information meant and then come to your own conclusion about the upcoming result. And the impact of decisions were a fuck of a lot more important than getting a few waves.

Obviously you are not aware of what was available during that time, and what it took to learn how to get good at using it. All this pre internet

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Especially for e and 3to5. A little NJ pool action.

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I just heard Andy Irons in a cheesy Quiznos ad on the radio.

b-stah, you forgot wavefax which i subscribed too for several years before the internet changed surf-forecasting. when all the data became available people didn't have to scramble to show off thier forecasting skills. by example
i never shared my weekly faxes with random acquintances or kooky co-workers. nor did i publish a report on the whiteboard in my cube. crowd my spot? fuck no.

The difference is that you chew it up, puke it out, and spoonfeed it to the masses for 1 beach. All the others aren't that specific. Lines and charts don't mean shit when you condence it into two words like "banner day" for 1 beach. Do you really think all those people will take the time to read the models?

Masters:

Tomme Arthur

Peter Bouckaert (on right)

Westvleteren Monks

re: cell phones at ob - i get stink-eye for this all the time and 99.9% of these occasions i am telling my gf what time to expect me home after i see the conditions. sometimes while on the phone doing this if its good i'll be semi-unconsciously giving stink-eye to someone else on a phone who i figure must be calling surfers down to the beach, but could just as well be doing the same maintenance call as me. good times.

Wind scatterometry was not available until 1996.

Wave Watch models were available from the early 90s.

Crude isobar maps and movements of low pressure systems, and buoy information, were available way back. And that was quite useful. But nothing like the precision available now with the combination of Wave Watch III models and QuikSCAT wind readings.

You can even go back and check your old Sean Collins faxes....often really bad by today's standards. But that's b/c the raw data available then pales compared to what is easily accessible today.

Last year I shut down for a while to mull over those discontented with the site. I received a pretty emphatic show of support in my neighborhood from my friends and neighbors who surf. And if anyone has a right to be upset about the site, they do.

As for it being local....people in San Luis Obisbo and Oregon are daily readers because it bears some relation to their weather patterns. North Coasters. And locals. And Santa Cruz people. And displaced SF surfers in SoCal just checking in on the waves they used to surf. Maybe I do tend towards forecasting wind and wave conditions in SF, but there's a lot of overlap between that and conditions 100+ miles to the north and 100+ miles to the south.

Surfing is inherently selfish. My site is not. You can get over it, or keep chewing on the same bitter pill, your choice.

Hacky sack?

cell phone phobia, surf forecast phobia, crowd phobia and loss-of-soul-phobia. Who cares? Best surfers still get the best waves, the masses sit on the sidelines and watch and scrounge for scraps.

Check your internet, call your friends, buy your surf hats and glasses and traction pads and board socks and nose guards and gath hats and accessorize 'till you die. Cry about technology, whine about the crowds. Best surfers still get the waves so I don't give a shit.

There are noticeably far fewer surfers this year than the last very many years. I just don't get the bitchin, even though I do respect a few of the people that are complaining.

On a brighter note, we've got waves coming! ummm, that's not a forecast really. Is it? Anyway - just go out and surf and have fun.

I gotta give a shout out to John Shultz, He is super chill and makes GREAT shapes. He made me a board a few years back, he listened and nailed exactly what I wanted. I also have a nearly ten year old gun John made. I loaned it to a buddy who needed a trusty steed for big cold days off Oregon. It is still charging nor-pac bombs. I just wish he'd give it back.

John is a father and a man. He once said "I didn't respect teachers till I had a kid"

That says alot -mostly about growing up...

Blakestah is great. He's information. Has a huge knowledge of the ocean. We can all learn from that. You could get instead lame ass fluff reports like we get down here:

SURF REPORT for NEWPORT BEACH
Sep 12th, 2005 7:00 am

Not much out there again today. About the same as yesterday with consistent knee high surf with the occasional waist high, and very rare chest high set that is walled out. Save your energy, you will need it later this week (Friday & Saturday) for the epic South Swell!

The absolute worst friggin' vibe is at the landing below SC. This summer I saw some 16 year old kids return to their car to find all the windows waxed with "kooks go home" etc. The local slime even waxed one of my windows, probably because of my SC sweatshirt. Most of these pukes don't live that close to the place, it's not that good, and most of them don't surf well. They give you the stink eye if you mention conditions in Santa Cruz or the reefs north of town.

I hope that the OB crowd never develops that attitude. It's unnecessary because OB scares the hell out of average people who have ventured out on an overhead day. As a part-time Steamer Lane Lot Lizard, I can tell you that everyone has a lot of respect for The Beach and you nuts who suffer the hundred duck dives, ice cream headaches, and long hold downs in order to enjoy three-knot cross currents and the brutal inside bar.

The next swell is an opportunity for the best surfers to excel and amateurs to drown. Fall is the season to save the testosterone for surfing and drop the bullshit.

this internet surf forecast=crowds argument, aside from being discussed dozens of times here, reeks of contradiction and elitism. those people who don't appreciate the information blakestah (or any other site) provides, should by their own argument quit using the internet for their surf information. if you wanna forsake surfing's modern conveniences, then come on out and claim your luddite status - and stop choosing which forms of technology you support, and start by throwing your computer, cell phone, and cable tv out the window.

Blakstah's site is the least understandable surfing forecast site on the net!

Dennis I too surfed alone on Saturday A.M. with "crowds" of sea lions (and other gray shapes below) it was a blast... Some very small waves but consistent.
Surf forcasting is a great thing when free.
Some days the Weather Cube did not work so you just go to the beach.
Remember, We used to look at weather maps or wait for the 11:00 news during the 1970S.This was pre cable TV. So the internet followed cable TV as an information source.
I THINK CABLE TV RUINED MY OLD SURF SPOTS.WEATHER CHNEL MTV AND ALL....30 years ago....
HA and ALOHA to all fellow water lovers

had our tires flatend, a fish head on the wiper, and a wax message saying "don't surf here anymore" on the window by the "landing local's" in the 1970's. weenies.

quit whining about cell phones and go surf

Dennis,

Yup, I was out there Sat. at Sloat and it was REALLY fun with no one around.

FOLKS! ARE YOU GUYS READY FOR THIS MACKER SOUTH COMING IN?!?!?! I ain't, because my family will be in town. Jeezus christ. Let's see how it goes. Hawaii is expected to be 4-8 feet Hawaiian by Thurs on the South Shore. We should see DOH by Sat.

Some Global Warming Trend? North Shore of Oahu was near DOH today, and getting bigger tomorrow. WTF???

More examples of mastery:

Zyryab

Paco de Lucia (my all time favorite guitarist) on Flamenco guitar and John McLaughlin on the steel string guitar.

No pics of chicks on this thread??!!! That sucks! What has happened here?

oh please oh please...sniffle sniffle
don't go away bvb

Late comment on the surf forecast thread. Well BVB, you should write a letter to Senator Rick Santorum and tell him you support his effort to stop the NOAA from distributing weather monitoring information for free to the masses. Then only pay for play sites like Accuweather and Surfline will be able to provide the kind of detailed forecasting you are complaining about. Then only the rich surfline subscribers and highly trained local knowledge veterans such as yourself will have the jump on the wave conditions. Wow, democracy is great.

I got waves at a very popular SC spot two days last week with only a few guys out. Sure it was shoulder at best but I had fun, and there were smiles all around. Got out Saturday to a great wave I've never surfed before with a friend who needed someone to go with him to a somewhat sketchy spot. All this talk about the internet made me think of how it used to be, friends sharing with friends. What is the need people feel with naming and describing spots on the internet?

With this loudly forecast event coming up I'm guilty of taking advantage. I was planning my week Sunday when word first got out and I got my work schedule. Swell, tide, weather, crowd... there's still alot of work to be done to get it really good, no forecast will ever be able to tell you where you will have the most fun, no matter how much you pay. Sometimes I want good waves and I'm willing to battle, sometimes it's more fun to surf the B or C spot alone or with friends. Shoot, I surfed crappy small windy waves last night at 9pm. I was all alone out there, no kooks or angry locals. I scared myself alittle but that was fun too.

Anyone participating in the upcomeing Beach Clean-up Day?

Dont everyone show up at the HMB jetty at once.

Fark i remember last year when that big southie hit the Jedi and it was gridlock taffic from Hwy 92 to fricken lindy.

Well, I guess it's been decided. I'll be ordering my next board from John.

And Bob, I think for the rest of us you need to suck it up a little bit. As my family counselor has said to me about dealing with teenagers, "What could you possibly be scared of, you surf Ocean Beach for Chris' sakes!"

Please surf the hook this friday and saturday. at nite too! the moon will be full!