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Arctic Surf

Frigid, itchy-hands cold.
Empty, groomed, thumpy mini-anvils.
Mesmerizing, sculpted, violent, shallow, barrel action.
Aqua green, swept clean, kinda mean spicy beans!
Teahupoo-wannabee inner-bar suckfest.
Spitting, sandy, throaty, distempered cylinders.
Fat mellow peelers in the mix too, here and there.
Cold.
Saw Elias meander into a nice coverup yesterday.
He stalled on the takeoff and tucked up high, waiting for the barrel to encapsulate.
Watched him fucking thwack the lip with authority on another one.
Niceness.
Watched Bagel take off on a shapely one, disappear for a while and then blip above the lip, all crouched low with stooped shoulders, going about mach 20 down the line. Pretty rad.
Yours truly could have led a clinic on kookitude all weekend.
Here's how you blow a beautiful wave.
Here's how you choose the wrong wave and get tossed over the falls.
Here's how you do that again.
Here's how you carve a frontside turn and catch an edge and biff huge.
Here's how you take 35 minutes to get rejected Saturday morning.. then walk down the beach and try again.. finally get out after another 20 minutes, take one tiny wave.. then get caught inside again and not be able to get back out!! argh!
Here's how you catch a nice backside wave, then hold onto the pigdog too long instead of firing off the bottom, then exploding into the lip... if only in my dreams.
Still fun!

Also.. in shitty Stinkeye Cruz news. a few friends were surfing a little spot north of Santa Cruz on Sunday. They were having a good time with no vibes in the water. They saw this strange guy gaze out toward the surf zone from the top of the cliff with a mean, sinister look on his face. When they finished their session they climbed back up the trail to their cars only to find that all 4 tires of both cars had been slashed and were completely flat! Who does that?

Oh Mexico.

Ripper chick

Bagel Wave

Bagel paintings

This is what i want my turns to look like.

Jeff Anderson photo again (from A-frame magazine)

Love this shot


frist?

Posted by: at February 21, 2006 10:11 AM

friday evening the beach was at its best. Easy paddle out, glassy six footers on the outer bars, and fucking freezing

Posted by: at February 21, 2006 10:15 AM

Pretty good all weekend, methinks...
Cold, frosty breath in the morning line-up,
Inner bar smack fest.
Got lots of silky small ones before work this morning...

Posted by: sactomex at February 21, 2006 10:16 AM

Damn, check out the lewd Bagel artwork. I woulda painted those without underwear.

Posted by: MSG at February 21, 2006 10:18 AM

Wow - Nice work Bagel!

E - I kooked out all weekend too. Well most of it anyway. Sunday, I was 0 for 13 before I caught my first wave - wtf. Then I couldn't miss. I got five in a row of the best rights I saw come through all day. yesterday, I just couldn't get myself in the right spot at the right time. Anybody here give lessons?

Posted by: Dennis at February 21, 2006 10:25 AM

I agree sweet paintings and photo choices this morning. Mavs looks cooooold and baja looks fun in a serious sort of way.

Posted by: eric at February 21, 2006 10:45 AM

Biggest issue this weekend for me was being too far outside. Found myself missing too many waves - then I paddled about 20 yards towards the beach, and all of a sudden there were waves o'plenty. Steep but mellow, fast with smackable faces - rode a few this morning straight into the oncoming barrel section - what to do? Floated over one, tucked into another, jumped the whitewater on yet another...
On Saturday, there was one guy sitting all alone way outside trying to catch one of those set waves that were scraping the outer bar. He sat for like half an hour until he finally got one, and rode it all the way in through the line up with his fingers in the air like, "Yeah!! I'm not a dork for waiting way out there like that for so long. I rule because of this one wave!!!"

Posted by: sactomex at February 21, 2006 10:45 AM

I walked home from my session yesterday morning and couldn't get my hands working enough to use my house key. I could've chilled a beer just by holding it.

Posted by: R3W at February 21, 2006 10:52 AM

anthony tashnick paddled out right to the peak at our beach where i had been surfing on sunday. he probably choose that spot because i was making it look soo good and he probably waited until i paddled in to go out because he was scared of me, i think. he promptly ripped our beach to shreds, busting airs on waves that i was barely making.
i want to say thank you to the fetus for holding off on your arrival so i could enjoy one more beautiful weekend of surf before you get here and tether me to the home front. now come already!

Posted by: steamwand at February 21, 2006 10:53 AM

Cool Bagel paintings...I like the way that they are presented on an only partially painted canvas

Posted by: KG at February 21, 2006 10:56 AM

exciting time, steamwand!

beach pretty fun sat&sun. low wave-count, but actual real genuine wave-type waves.

Posted by: kloo at February 21, 2006 10:58 AM

definitely good times this weekend, lotsa barrels to be had out there and some beatiful weather yesterday. bagel i saw one of your pieces at greg's house and dug it a lot, when's your next show?

Posted by: bbr at February 21, 2006 11:02 AM

I hate booties, I wore them on Sun morning, surfed lke crap. I wore gloves yeserday afternoon no booties, better but the club foot sucks. I felt my upper jaw go numb too.

Posted by: Mexi at February 21, 2006 11:04 AM

too cold? prissy southers.

Posted by: PNW at February 21, 2006 11:05 AM

my coworker is selling his '69 land cruiser and i thought someone on here might be interested:
http://www.paulperreault.com/fj40/

Posted by: bbr at February 21, 2006 11:13 AM

thanks guys and e..those are from a while back i thinks. trying to get a show together hopefully this year sometime..

not as fun this morning as days past..

Posted by: bagel at February 21, 2006 11:15 AM

They slash your tires at X MILE because they live in the hills, drink heavily, take methamphetemine and ride red surfboards. Seriously, if you know that spot you know what I mean. That's not a joke. Biggest haters ever, and that place is set up so a call out to the cops is absolutely futile. People get beat up in the water there, cars get stolen and driven back to SC High School and others just get waxed or slashed. Increasingly one of the unfriendliest places on the coast.

Posted by: Dem at February 21, 2006 11:37 AM

E, dont get so hung up on what your surfing looks like. phuck it, and have fun. appreciate being able to surf. embrace the fact that you suck. i have accepted it in my surfing.

yesterday was epic. today looks like more of the same.

Posted by: at February 21, 2006 11:40 AM

bagel, nice work. i hope that is a chick bending over in that one painting on the right. and, i hope you nailed her after the posing. yah!!!

Posted by: tt at February 21, 2006 11:43 AM

And BTW, that behavior is carried out by, and encouraged among, a group of "men" in their 30s and 40s. Low lives with no lives....

Posted by: Dem at February 21, 2006 11:44 AM

I've heard of the same thing at a different undercover spot down south. Surfed it the in afternoon after the slashing and was a little worried. tread lightly

Posted by: secret at February 21, 2006 11:54 AM

It WAS NOT all that. E's crazy imagnation is running away with him again.
Boo Hoo slashed tires - if you're a blogger claimer poser exposing hourly/daily conditionshere and elsewhere than you need more than 4 flat tires, you need a one way ticket to the back east.
We can donate to this fund.

Posted by: Jaan Carper (pronounced 'Yawn) at February 21, 2006 12:12 PM

Dem: You gotta problem with red boards?

Posted by: Jaan Carper at February 21, 2006 12:13 PM

Jaan = yawn.

Posted by: trickydicky at February 21, 2006 12:20 PM

Someone posted this a couple of days back. I have the EXACT same board. Got it used, used only twice, kinda expensive for for a used but it was shaped by the man himself, Terry Martin. Mine is a 5'7", would go a little longer maybe a 5"10ish next time. But the board FLIES and sticks so hard to wall. Never had it spin out, but I am a kook and don't power the bottom turns. Board is recommended, definitely!

I really got it to copy the shape next time I want to mow some foam.

Posted by: at February 21, 2006 12:28 PM

Santa Cruz is a geographical bottleneck-like oddity where the sewer rats of California's central valley pour out on to the coast.

Posted by: news flash at February 21, 2006 12:30 PM

X-ray and thermogram of 4-mile psycho's "hand"

Posted by: Assfinger Institute Archives [via] S.C. Dept of Health at February 21, 2006 01:07 PM

I just bought a Milky Way from my student for 2$, I'm hungry.

Bagel, that last quad painting is great.

Posted by: Mexi at February 21, 2006 01:10 PM

bagel, like the art work. Are you exhibiting at any gallery right now?

Posted by: looking for art at February 21, 2006 01:13 PM

wanted to chime in for a sec... I attended the surf rescue and cpr course on saturday down in HMB with the fire department and pillar point harbor patrol. it's always a good thing to re-learn good cpr skills, and bonus points when those skills combine with the learned life guarding techniques in the surf zone. highly recommend brushing up and learning good techniques for helping take care of your fellow surfers....

thanks to mark @ surfpulse, the HMBFD, and the PPHP for organizing and spreading the gospel according to safe surfing...

oh yeah, and thanks mother nature for the waves...

Posted by: btown_daddy at February 21, 2006 01:13 PM

Jaan/Yawn,

I just pay attention to the details. Red board? Check. Dude with the beady, ice-blue eyes? Check. Some of those guys do not even live in Santa Cruz, more like Bonny Doon, other areas up in the hills. Some behavior is so over-the-top I can only explain it away as booze or other substances. It's just a few bad apples, I've mostly seen the area relaxed and friendly. I think most of us understand that, besides a farmer or two, nobody is really a local out there. Some others beg to differ, and how.

Assfinger Institute, that's a rare piece of evidence you've got there.

Posted by: Dem at February 21, 2006 01:28 PM

Oh that was me commenting on that green Hobie for all that care. Which is no one. Cooolllld ass surf down here, for LA at least.

Posted by: Hb at February 21, 2006 01:58 PM

hows that 16th st sandbar Hb?

Posted by: KIX at February 21, 2006 02:08 PM

i have a couple of small paintings sitting behind a desk at a gallery in town. email me if you're interested. bagel@doublefinedotcom...thanks mexi those are from my green quad period.

Posted by: bagel at February 21, 2006 02:09 PM

Hb, thanks for the feedback on that quad.
I think those look pretty epic. glad you like yours.
a 5'10" would be perfect, i think.

Posted by: at February 21, 2006 03:07 PM

i've surfed quad-mile for years. hate the crowds but never had any hassles or trouble. i like the wave, but would LOVE it less crowded. always too many rippers there.

JaanYawn, nice anon post you pussy.

Posted by: judahpeak at February 21, 2006 03:09 PM

this slashing wasn't at any of the "X mile" names.

Not that it matters.

Posted by: e at February 21, 2006 03:15 PM

If you drive $30,000+ car to the beach, with 4 of your freinds, yeah you are a target.

Posted by: Bonnie Dune at February 21, 2006 03:16 PM

Bonnie Dune, what if it's my girlfriend's car, my 4 friends don't surf, and I am way better than you?

Posted by: stereotypes r stupid at February 21, 2006 03:28 PM

Bonnie Dune, what if it's my girlfriend's car, my 4 friends don't surf, and I am way better than you?

Posted by: stereotypes r stupid at February 21, 2006 03:28 PM

Bonnie Dune, i really want to bend you over

Posted by: at February 21, 2006 03:32 PM

I agree with you on sterotyping but not sure how it fits here? Simply put, you stick out like a sore thumb with a nice car parked alongside a brussel sprout field off the PCH. If you lived an ASL you'd know that. College can't teach you everything.

Posted by: Bonnie Dune at February 21, 2006 03:33 PM

Trust me anon, you don't.

Posted by: Bonnie Dune at February 21, 2006 03:35 PM

I can't help but notice that a lot of people here have a tendancy to be victims.

Posted by: perp at February 21, 2006 03:37 PM

Hey Guys,

Long time reader (silent type). E great stuff, thanks for all the motivation. Everyone else, too funny, somedays I laugh, other days I say "WTF"

Keep Surfing..Cheers

Posted by: sic at February 21, 2006 03:42 PM

what time is love? 4:20 baby. prepare yourself.

Posted by: KIX at February 21, 2006 03:43 PM

Bagel - are you selling the shot on today's blog - the surf one with the four scenes?

Posted by: needles at February 21, 2006 03:44 PM

Most of us simply disdain the blind rage of the berserker.

There's a certain anxiety that courage isn't much demanded of those of us in a certain class. I mean, if you grow up in the mean streets, you're born into a form of war. So let's say, middle-class to upper-middle-class American life, where almost every surfer comes from: It's a basically pacified existence. Well, we start thrill-seeking like crazy. We engage in behaviors that are a kind of practice courage. Surfing. Acting tough while surfing. Fights where none exist, urges and imagined territorialisms, boosted to the fore by the selfish notions of a narrow hivemind. But we still sense that it's circumscribed, someting is missing, impotent. I posit that not only do the meanest locals lack any real courage, they also possess no moral courage. They stand for nothing. San Mateo, Santa Cruz and San Francisco counties are loaded with the kind. The remedy is simple: it's in the knowing.

Posted by: Dem at February 21, 2006 03:47 PM

pampered nancies.

Posted by: spade caller at February 21, 2006 03:53 PM

So the ASL requires a crappy car? You have never met a surfer you liked that has a $30,000 car? Why $30,000?

Posted by: stereotypes r stupid at February 21, 2006 03:54 PM

the last guy that stole one of his girlfriends had a $30,000 car.

Posted by: at February 21, 2006 03:55 PM

$30,000 is pretty much just a generic car these days.

Posted by: at February 21, 2006 04:03 PM

Dem, I posit that you are an effete intellectual snob with an unhealthy obsession with all things Star Wars that precludes you from being an authority on anything grounded in reality.

Posted by: the farce is with you at February 21, 2006 04:05 PM

*posit that you are an effete*

Posted by: pto calling kettle, come in kettle at February 21, 2006 04:10 PM

Pot, I think that was supposed to be mimicry.

Posted by: over pot's head at February 21, 2006 04:18 PM

Posted by: e at February 21, 2006 04:23 PM

I have freinds that have $30K+ rides, but they don't go surfing in them. And if they did, it's not parked off the PCH in a brussell sprout field in rural SC county. Thinking caps please.

Posted by: Bonnie Dune at February 21, 2006 04:26 PM

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Posted by: Brian at February 21, 2006 04:26 PM

I took all of these back in Mexico.

Posted by: Brian at February 21, 2006 04:27 PM

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Posted by: Brian at February 21, 2006 04:27 PM

Early Morning stuff.

Posted by: Brian at February 21, 2006 04:27 PM

How many cars do I need to live the ASL? One for surfing remote areas, one for driving to art openings, one to pick up silicon hotties on Friday nights...

I must have left my thinking cap in my other car.

Posted by: at February 21, 2006 04:32 PM

awesome pics brian! thanks for posting.
Mexico friggin rules!

Posted by: e at February 21, 2006 04:34 PM

This pic is kind of bad, but last time I parked my Enzo while surfing________________look what happened......

Posted by: 3to5setsof7 at February 21, 2006 04:42 PM

Posted by: untitled at February 21, 2006 04:46 PM

gawd, even though this sounds like the right thing to do, it's still gross:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060222/sc_nm/life_sanfrancisco_dogs_dc;_ylt=AqJEX6K_zGNUdmJB9Vgv6dIhANEA;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--

Posted by: at February 21, 2006 04:53 PM

im acually a fan of dog poop power

Posted by: Brian at February 21, 2006 05:10 PM

Hey KIX/PNW, do you have any affiliation with towsurfer.com?

Posted by: 3to5setsof7 at February 21, 2006 05:10 PM

FUCK YOU Brian (in a good way) how you afford things on your white-trash step-fathers income is beyond me; Its Dad! How are you son? Dis you get the job at the Santa Rosa mall?
Sporting 200 dollar wannbe a pop star shades and driving a symbol of material wealth does not make you a better surfer - even though it might make you superior loooking in an obvious plastic way than say a Mission District hipster pleeb who is proud of never doing laundry and wearing soiled frayed at the edges clothes either way you're a dork.
Judahnonpeak - anytime you wanna throw down with that fat body of yours bring it on!

Posted by: Burrito Boy in the Mission at February 21, 2006 05:25 PM

burrito boy you're lame!

I like surfing.

Posted by: at February 21, 2006 05:28 PM

hey Bob, your baby's crying, get off the computer and change his diaper you dork

Posted by: downstairs at February 21, 2006 05:36 PM

How pissed off would a farmer be if you parked your shit heap in their broccoli field?

Dem on point today.

Posted by: Thinking Cap on too tight at February 21, 2006 05:42 PM

nice waves Brian. they look like shorebreak?

Posted by: or maybe telephoto lens effect distorts the distance at February 21, 2006 05:45 PM

needles, sold, thanks for asking..

Posted by: bagel at February 21, 2006 05:49 PM

i made a little book recently that you might like though..i need to figure out where im going to put it..probably some zine shops or surf shops around town maybe in the next couple of weeks..

Posted by: bagel at February 21, 2006 05:53 PM

that's the job I want, running the turbines at the dog and cat pooh power plant

Posted by: affordable housing development next door! at February 21, 2006 05:56 PM

I'm cool with that bro - driving down the Grt. Hwy one arm slung over the wheel of my Pathfinder -glancing back and forth checkin' it checkin' you your board your car and your way.
A one dimensional existence rules!
Hurry - get the chip out of the probag and surf like a kook.
Judah peak is going off!

Posted by: Cabrillo Local at February 21, 2006 06:01 PM

Hey 'Downstairs' - you gotta name to go with your Mollusk face or do you potshot anon from the sidelines like all the rest?

Posted by: Surf God at February 21, 2006 06:04 PM

yeah thats gnarley beachbrake monster fuck.
aka im drunk. Whop.

Posted by: Brian at February 21, 2006 06:08 PM

haha 357. no. I would never be caught dead getting named like that in a hypocritical article naming a place they were purporting not to name that any bozo with a marine chart could find with a few choice guesses. nice obscure spot though.

Posted by: PNW at February 21, 2006 06:18 PM

I'm aging and developing man-tits. I surf vicariously through niceness, surfpulse and surfline. I talk a good game but have never graduated beyond a novice level in the water.
I order board from name shapers and I travel to distant surf spots on the globe but I will always be a kook on the fringe of actual talent...

Posted by: Most Dudes at February 21, 2006 06:21 PM

I remember tires were getting slashed a few months ago north of SC at R----'s near S----'s C----. The weird thing was all the regulars who've surfed the reef for years were victims. Santa Cruz is a melting pot of surfers, and yes, more than one of them are crazy, irrational, meth-heads.

Posted by: at February 21, 2006 06:24 PM

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"Dem, I posit that you are an effete intellectual snob with an unhealthy obsession with all things Star Wars that precludes you from being an authority on anything grounded in reality.

Posted by: the farce is with you on February 21, 2006 04:05 PM "
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It's an illusion, I use a thesaurus and rip off other people's thoughts (memes) ;)
So, anon buddy, try stacking a few of your remaining axons and neurons on this thought:

"Cynicism is not realistic and tough, it's unrealistic and kind of cowardly because it means you don't have to try."

And most of the time, it's not even humorous.

Thanks for helping me prove that point.

Posted by: Dem at February 21, 2006 06:41 PM

dem whats on your website? i cant get anywheres

Posted by: Brian at February 21, 2006 07:03 PM

February 21, 2006
50s Said To Be Golden Years For Sex
Everyone knows that some things do get better as we get older, but who would have thought that sex is one of them? A report from an Oslo-based study showing that men in their fifties said they were happier with their sex lives than men in their thirties. The BBC reports on the study, which asked 1,185 men between the ages of 29 and 70 to rate their satisfaction with various aspects of their sex life on a scale of zero to four, with four representing good sexual function and no problems. Researchers found that men in their twenties recorded an average overall satisfaction level of 2.79 with the second highest level was among fifty-somethings, who recorded an average of 2.77 . Men in their 30s only reached 2.55, and men in their forties averaged 2.72. The bad news is, it doesn't get better forever: overall satisfaction fell significantly to 2.46 for men in their sixties and to 2.14 for men in their seventies.

Posted by: toneman at February 21, 2006 07:05 PM

my wife has been loving the last 2 years
after 50 horny as hell

Posted by: ptosh at February 21, 2006 07:06 PM

listen, man, I don't wanna hear about no granny sex. that's just disgusting.

Posted by: at February 21, 2006 07:15 PM

a Bush speech writer's supposed to make sense?

Brian- try this.

Posted by: Dem's anon buddy at February 21, 2006 07:22 PM

steamwand: holy shit!! good luck!!!! it is truly awesome. my little girl is just under 4 months now but is very smiley and is chatting and squealing a lot. the first few months have been unexpectedly interactive, and delightfully rewarding. i am in the midst of my biggest surf dry spell since i began riding - mostly due to the bug home repair project - but it is my time with the little one is a whole new source of joy and fulfillment, so i am missing surf less.

re: the $30k car-magnet theory comment: as many of you will remember, last april at ano nuevo, which offers wind-protected rights but also a tight and landlord-friendly lineup, i had two windows broken in my beat-up 87 subaru of negligible bluebook value. i was there alone. i have worked toward hoping that the troubled prick gets his shit together before winding up adding to my tab again via admittance in one of our most expensive forms of subsidized housing. on the other hand, i also harbor hopes that justice will ultimately be served - perhaps in this case by a jailhouse dentist.

Posted by: loon at February 21, 2006 08:36 PM

Dem- your ignorance is understandable because like other colonialists, regardless of the lip-service you pay your particular spiritual practice, you ignore the history of the SF neighborhoods you now surf. For this reason you are more pitiablel than those you heap scorn on.

Posted by: SF County at February 21, 2006 08:50 PM

Whoa- crazy shit. Thanks to my weak tolerance to the combination of the cold and partying, I pulled outta that spot probably minutes before the "slashings". Damn people really need to chill. The cars that got slashed were typical surfer beaters, truck/ suv style. A real bummer for the guys who it happened to.

Posted by: artifact at February 21, 2006 09:00 PM

burrito boy, blow me you anon pussy.

Posted by: judahpeak at February 21, 2006 09:18 PM

I'll be knockin' on your door in 30 min. Reuben. you better be ready.

Posted by: anon pussy at February 21, 2006 09:27 PM

sorry Reuben, I meant Jacob

Posted by: anon pussy at February 21, 2006 09:36 PM

[My first "Forced to defend myself from ad hominem attacks" post -- a new milestone on the e bloog]

Anon Buddy and other haters who even took their leisurely time to LMK,

Godspeed to you and all, but is it b/c you have no real friends or something?

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If any of you think I'm trying to teach you a lesson, or if like the replies above you think I'm trying to tell you something you already know and it bugs you, and you think you need to "pity" me or make up some special anlaysis/insight as to who or what I am, please think again. I do this simply for myself, to speak out loud and see my own thoughts.

All of you who think you have "scorn heaped on you" by my posts and all this -- have you ever cleaned up a beach when no one was looking? Have you ever realized that so much is not ever connected to you, or put upon you? Because if not you don't even qualify to talk to me like that. Everything you are saying here goes to show how LITTLE you know. Life's too short, I told you those stories about FOUR MILE b/c that DUDE ATTACKED ME THERE for no other reason than to impress his friends. I was forced to defend myself and it was really fucked up -- not backing down may have been a mistake and it was a HUGE risk for me that day. It paid off but it rattled my nerves and took away the innocence of a CHERISHED PLACE I had been surfing for years, since 1996 when I moved out here from the east coast specifically to do so. Everyone came to my aid afterward, the dude finally came to his senses and ceased his raging full-contact insanity and the crowd turned on the guy bigtime so he slunk "back to the peak" (if you can imagine) to join back up with his bros, half of which were totally perplexed as to his behavior. They had a very hard time defending him, so I didn;t get out of the water. If the peak turned on me, I was outta there. The guy dropped in on me three times super-deliberatley, so I PASSED him on the last try, bottom-turning through the tube opening and slingshot around him, so then I spray him and go out the back, pissed but he's MORE pissed for it all, of course. I'm not going to into a giant diatribe describing the whole scene, but when he came up to me for the sheer "Sport" of terrifying me, all like 38-years-old-and-200-pounds of him -- I could tell very clearly he was high on something. nOT WEED. I have 20 witnesses who who were like "Word" to that, they saw it too.

So if you think the "North of SC Coast" story by e today touched a nerve -- YEAH, IT DID. I reflected on it my way, to myself AND for whoever can "listen to reason." Who wouldn't WANT TO STOP EACH OTHER FROM HURTING ONE ANOTHER? I 've got to point it out if this audience will listen. And since I've been doing this since I was 13 years old, never have I been forced to reflect on it so AUDACIOUSLY (intellectual snob) when I hear that 2 cars were slashed out TOTALLY on all 4 wheels, and these spots are turning out to be so lame and criminal?

So what I like "Star Wars." You know how many people have that "unhealthy obsession" while getting paid by George Lucas around here? Do you think some of them might ever...surf? You should think you're basest insults through more thoroughly before you make yourself look foolish for even trying it. It is vintage from my own childhood And I work in the arts/design, and also peddle that vintage on eBay. That web page was designed to attract buyers (top collectors) who pay $1000s for some of those items. Even with that info, you *still* do not even have a relevant framework or context for your ad hominem attacks, and you still have precious little info to anlayze things SO deeply, like you're magicically "informed." The ad hominem attacks are as telltale + pointless today as they were in Ancient Greece and Egypt. Someone else's tired wisdom once told me I should address the issue and the solution instead. I feel like I just visited 6th grade again, kind of liberating, thanks....

Posted by: Dem at February 21, 2006 11:27 PM

Dem- If I knew you I might give a fuck about what happened to you at 4 mi and I don't for an instant condone unprovoked attacks,tire slashings or anything of the sort. You stated that SF was full of cowardly locals that stood for nothing and I came to their/our defense. It's not the first time you've disparaged the locals on here and I'm more than qualified to call bullshit on your hypocrisy.

Posted by: anon buddy at February 22, 2006 12:45 AM

ahh...fu ckin four mile, fuck that reef. all lumpy and shit. im drunk as hell here in sc...no girls tonight, godamn bullshi--. but whatever, tom. dawn patrol up north, get some beach break goodness, ooohhh, yeah, fu-- yeah.. wow, has anyone ever posted this late???????
F--- sc locs who f--- with me..., i love surfing, and nothings going to change that..

Posted by: sluggah at February 22, 2006 02:15 AM

Wow, I read this blog daily for good vibes and a break from work. Few good vibes today, which rather blows.

Great paintings Bagel! Very nice!

I would also like to point out that there was not a single picture of a hot chick. That really blows. What is the world coming to.

Posted by: gttim at February 22, 2006 06:04 AM

Another day of the locals are mean to me.

Yeah, this site get's more and more relevant everyday.

Posted by: at February 22, 2006 07:31 AM

....... PLUS tribute to my only remainingSW action figure from childhood: one wabi sabi jawa."


You contradict yourself Dem





Posted by: at February 22, 2006 08:35 AM

Thoughts in your head, jumbled they are. Use the force Dem, take to heart the hater blogs you shouldn't, a fattie you should smoke and a Knightrider episode you'd best watch

Posted by: at February 22, 2006 09:16 AM

"i have worked toward hoping that the troubled prick gets his shit together before winding up adding to my tab again via admittance in one of our most expensive forms of subsidized housing."

Posted by: huh? at February 22, 2006 10:00 AM

ad homi nem adv.

Usage Note: As the principal meaning of the preposition ad suggests, the homo of ad hominem was originally the person to whom an argument was addressed, not its subject. The phrase denoted an argument designed to appeal to the listener's emotions rather than to reason, as in the sentence The Republicans' evocation of pity for the small farmer struggling to maintain his property is a purely ad hominem argument for reducing inheritance taxes. This usage appears to be waning; only 37 percent of the Usage Panel finds this sentence acceptable. The phrase now chiefly describes an argument based on the failings of an adversary rather than on the merits of the case: Ad hominem attacks on one's opponent are a tried-and-true strategy for people who have a case that is weak. Ninety percent of the Panel finds this sentence acceptable. The expression now also has a looser use in referring to any personal attack, whether or not it is part of an argument, as in It isn't in the best interests of the nation for the press to attack him in this personal, ad hominem way. This use is acceptable to 65 percent of the Panel. �Ad hominem has also recently acquired a use as a noun denoting personal attacks, as in �Notwithstanding all the ad hominem, Gingrich insists that he and Panetta can work together� (Washington Post). This usage may raise some eyebrows, though it appears to be gaining ground in journalistic style. �A modern coinage patterned on ad hominem is ad feminam, as in �Its treatment of Nabokov and its ad feminam attack on his wife Vera often border on character assassination� (Simon Karlinsky). Though some would argue that this neologism is unnecessary because the Latin word homo refers to humans generically, rather than to the male sex, in some contexts ad feminam has a more specific meaning than ad hominem, being used to describe attacks on women as women or because they are women, as in �Their recourse... to ad feminam attacks evidences the chilly climate for women's leadership on campus�

Posted by: word of the day club at February 22, 2006 10:16 AM

come on E, we're all waiting! let's get today's latest. the natives are restless.

Posted by: needles at February 22, 2006 10:38 AM

Ya Dem I agree with SF County - you don't know the history of the SF neighborhoods you are talking about. A lot of those Seacliff boys came up hard! The Marina and PH boys too who surf FP. Hard upbringings to justify anger and violence. Some tranny/locals came up hard in Malibu too so they also have excuses for their anger issues.

Posted by: sf county is right! at February 22, 2006 10:41 AM

and the cunts come out of the woodwork to support another who's father raised a pussy.

Posted by: at February 22, 2006 10:56 AM

Fuck all that agro bullshit...nice small ones this morning at the beach...silky smooth, chest high slappables!!!

Posted by: sactomex at February 22, 2006 11:05 AM

fell off my game yesterday..
Here is one to make up for it:

Posted by: sactomex at February 22, 2006 11:06 AM

Rome just said "surf".

Posted by: fyi at February 22, 2006 11:10 AM

I think the guy who needs to feel secure by attacking another local for his hobbies, trying to find leverage by digging through the guy's website etc., should get his head checked. You should attack the ideas, not the person. At least the "Dem" post shows someone who give a shit beyond himself. It shows no mental fortitude whatsoever to claim you defend "locals" -- and that's what makes you feel proud and noble? Sad attempt to get the last word in; my big sister was good at that -- when she was 12.

Mini surrrrrrf is in the offing, but clean.

Posted by: I got the point, and you? at February 22, 2006 11:12 AM

very nicely put dem. the biggest tranny to ever claim so much local status, the bridge troll himself, bvb, and other pea brained jealous haters and protectors of the sacred 'way of the wave' have brought some good words out of you. they will always be laughed at felt sorry for, its mostly better to ignore them. but sometimes it can be fun to take anon shots at them and see if you can get a reaction. its easy for them to talk big as they most likely have not had to really defend them selves from anything other than the maid getting mad that she had to clean up thier piss, as they were too lazy and drunk to make it to the bathroom. bvb's is just bummed that there are shots of his loud mouthed tomoto face short ass all over the internet, be careful what you wish for bob!

Posted by: amon at February 22, 2006 11:14 AM

where's the update?

Posted by: at February 22, 2006 11:19 AM

Drove from SC all the way to Marina this morning...It was small and kinda mushy so I treated myself to Denny's. Hit the spot. Every beach needs a Denny's across the street so if it ain't happening in the morning at least you can score some eggs and pancakes. Maybe up north later...S---'s beach break? Time for class...

Posted by: slugger at February 22, 2006 11:26 AM

Implosion follows explosion.


Posted by: 3to5setsof7 at February 22, 2006 11:33 AM

Depression follows expression..

looks like e's the smart one today..

Posted by: bagel at February 22, 2006 11:47 AM

OK, so say you are at a spot and did nothing wrong and some crazy loony is coming after screaming at you and swinging his fists.
a) Do you take the punches?
b) Do you give him a ghetto beatdown in the water?
c) Do you try to rationalize with him, even though this guy is a f'n meth freak?

I have never had aproblem like this, and am pretty peaceful, except when people try to give me shit. Something inside of me wants to stand up for myself.

Posted by: mofo at February 22, 2006 12:02 PM

Go psycho on him and start yelling and spiting and blabering about killing him.... then hope he backs down.

Posted by: mexi at February 22, 2006 12:08 PM

I kill dead people.

Posted by: Dennis at February 22, 2006 12:12 PM

Silly, silly surfers.

Posted by: toad/todd at February 22, 2006 12:27 PM

Posted by: at February 22, 2006 12:37 PM

Fcul your force Dem.

Posted by: at February 22, 2006 12:37 PM

Amon, how's a bit of brokeback sound?

Posted by: Your Mom at February 22, 2006 12:42 PM

is E on vacation again? fcuk!

Posted by: at February 22, 2006 12:50 PM

Posted by: this came up when I googled tomato head at February 22, 2006 01:26 PM

bloggers are such little lambs
need E posts to be in the know
but every day that E don't post
the sheep had nowhere to go

Posted by: Mary Mary Quite Contrary at February 22, 2006 01:32 PM

San Quentin...you've been livin' hell to meee....

Looks like a little wave there...hmm.

Posted by: Hb at February 22, 2006 01:46 PM

bah bah bah bah

Posted by: Clarice at February 22, 2006 01:47 PM

Now, Mary, that wasn't nice. Do we need a little something to take the edge off? Come here, girl...

Posted by: needles at February 22, 2006 01:48 PM

want me to pull my panties down for that?

Posted by: Mary Mary Quite A Party Girl at February 22, 2006 01:50 PM

perhaps this will entertain you all (mostly work safe, an OC weekly article):

http://www.ocweekly.com/component/content2/view/great-dick%2c-babe_2006-02-09/

Posted by: KIX at February 22, 2006 01:53 PM

Hey Bagel,

Can I commission you to do a painting of my favorite surf trip memory? I think it would be pretty cool. I could send you a photograph to work from.

Posted by: steve at February 22, 2006 01:57 PM

meanies.

Posted by: 3to5setsof7 at February 22, 2006 01:57 PM

HB that wave is the wake off the Larkspur ferry. Lots of windsurfing and kiteboarding out there though.

Posted by: the warden at February 22, 2006 02:00 PM

give em 30 days in the hole warden

Posted by: Humble Pie at February 22, 2006 02:02 PM

what an article..

some fun ones out there at lunch

steve, email me bagel@doublefinedotcom and let me know what you have in mind..

Posted by: bagel at February 22, 2006 02:07 PM

the warden names! I know someone who rode that halfway to the city one day.

Posted by: at February 22, 2006 02:13 PM

Incoming swell this Sunday. Should be a solid fun one too.

Posted by: MSG at February 22, 2006 02:24 PM

Bagel,
I want one of those books of yr paintings, will they be available online anywhere soon? cash? trade?
cosmo in humboldt

Posted by: cosmo at February 22, 2006 02:33 PM

e-mail me me your address Cosmo, ill send you one..it's more of a book of drawings really..

Posted by: bagel at February 22, 2006 02:49 PM

Be careful of Santa Cruz guys. I'm somewhat involved in the world of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and Santa Cruz is known as jiu jitsu-ville, it's *really* popular down there. Every bjj tournament is packed with tatted up surfers, some of whom are kind of unassuming looking but man can they fight.

Posted by: Jaques Haas at February 22, 2006 02:49 PM

ha, santa cruz bj tournament. just about sums it up.

Posted by: sc style at February 22, 2006 03:00 PM

Yeah right...

Some Brazo called me out at Alligator's on a big day where I was getting slotted on fat waves - he and his 3 buddies all looking at me; he say's, ' I'm north shore Hui' in this fucked up twice broken pidgin english.
I meet him on the beach and the first thing he does is lay this wild 5-9" high kick at my head - as hard as I could I switchstance slug the guy directly in the balls and he goes down hard clutching his groin - his buddy jumps in and raises his hand to me right as the cops pass by. They U turn it. One guy on the ground whimpering and the other guy is getting hand cuffed as I walk away waving to my friend the cop and out I go for more waves...

Posted by: BVB at February 22, 2006 03:13 PM

Please give more info about Alligators. its good with fat slottable waves? I am so on it. thanks pal.

Posted by: I wanna be like bvb at February 22, 2006 03:21 PM

4:20 seems like an eternity from now.

Posted by: KIX at February 22, 2006 03:35 PM

3:40 is close enough. BING!

Posted by: KIX at February 22, 2006 03:40 PM

New for Spring 2006
BVB ACTION FIGURE with Kung Fu grip
Surf
Regulate
Intimadate
Curate
Hate

Posted by: Sore Brazo Balls at February 22, 2006 03:49 PM

Posted by: Kaiser at February 22, 2006 03:54 PM

Posted by: Bob, you rule at February 22, 2006 03:58 PM

kaiser, she is perfect. lets get a frontal.

sactomex, we need some onions!

Posted by: at February 22, 2006 04:01 PM

Come on! You should know I am an ass-man. Besides, they always look better from the back...

Posted by: Kaiser at February 22, 2006 04:06 PM

ENOUGH KAISER YOUR BREAKING MY FUCKING HEART

Posted by: Brian at February 22, 2006 04:22 PM

BVB-

If he high kicked you, he wasn't a jiu jitsu guy. Brazilian jiu jitsu is almost pure grappling, the only kick is a straight front and it's only meant as a distraction to get the take-down.

Brazil, especially Rio, has a big street fighting / martial arts culture, so it's very possible he was into muay thai, which is also really big down there, and that would explain the high kick. But the absolute last thing a jiu jitsu guy would do is any kick that would put them so far off balance as a side kick.

I've been thinking about it and I think the reason so many surfers get into jiu jitsu is jiu jitsu and surfing are so similar:

- they're both highly technique oriented, and it takes a good 6 months of getting pounded before you can do them at all. In BJJ you "roll" (spar) with other students, and if you don't know the moves your opponent completely controls you. Then slowly the techniques start working for you, and its incredibly satisfying, and the first time you pull off, for example, a successful reversal it's like magic. And as you get better it's an amazing thing when you stop having to use so much energy, and just let the technique do the work. It's like when you learn to surf rail to rail in surfing.

- both are incredibly fun to the point that you can just lie back and picture the moments from your last session. Everyone knows this of surfing, and it sounds crazy, but jiu jitsu is the same way. You can mentally play back the moments of a good roll, and learn from your mistakes.

- and then there's lots of little things, like at your academy you have a pecking order based on ability, attitude and seniority. And you travel to other spots / academies and its really interesting to see the completely other cultures and techniques. And its competitive if you want it to be, or it can be a solo soulful pursuit.

Anyway, I clearly have too much time on my hands today, as usual.

Posted by: Jaques Haas at February 22, 2006 04:26 PM

except that in surfing you are not rolling around grappling guys.

Posted by: I Roll WIth Women at February 22, 2006 04:47 PM

Ha, good point.

Posted by: Jaques Haas at February 22, 2006 04:50 PM

Here's an onion for ya!

Posted by: sactomex at February 22, 2006 04:52 PM

sorry about that...that was totally uncalled for.

Posted by: sactomex at February 22, 2006 04:54 PM

damn

Posted by: sactomex at February 22, 2006 04:56 PM

that onion makes me cry

Posted by: bagel at February 22, 2006 05:27 PM

They had some helicopter shots of San Quentin the other day. There were definitly some waves down there by the rocks. Kind of a point set up too.

Posted by: at February 22, 2006 05:32 PM

i guess you would call san quentin backwashes the REAL deadmans! get it? get it? im taking this show on the road starting now..

Posted by: bagel at February 22, 2006 05:35 PM

It was a night of heated debate - technical analysis of OB sandbar formation -versus- the role of SF surf art in an unappreciative community.
7 wheat grass shots later and Cobstah takes one up the ass from Tomato Face.
Nine long months! Nine long months! And after nine long months a nasty feud turns into unconditional love....
It's a love for their baby, their baby BobCobStah!
And for a brief moment, my friends, OB glassed off...and there was peace on earth.

In the other room, a baby BobCobstah cry is heard. Cob wiggles out of a tight spoon. He whispers to the man lying next to him, "Shhhh, no no no no no, you sleep, my darling, it's my turn to get up............"

Posted by: needles at February 22, 2006 05:51 PM

Thanks.

Posted by: BVB at February 22, 2006 06:07 PM

And where is Cadaver in all of this?

Posted by: at February 22, 2006 06:09 PM

Up your ass as usual, shit face.

Posted by: at February 22, 2006 06:18 PM

Dear Needles aka C-CM - Corn-Cob Master.
You sound worse than the sick fuck that I am. YOU ARE A SICK FUCK.
Aside from the cob fetish (btw - you're banished to Cornholes), I sense a disruption in your psyche. I am not a professional but...
you seem to suffer from lonliness and the ills of envy, avarice, and a sorry ass guilt.
Seek a life, then a wife...
Rather we surf on Rapestah's swizzler than the cob. Adeiu.

Posted by: Agnes at February 22, 2006 06:43 PM

Hi Agnes. I do drugs. I need help

Posted by: Brian at February 22, 2006 08:26 PM

go bagel

Posted by: Brian at February 22, 2006 08:27 PM

Oh, the irony...Netnanny blocks Kaiser's babes, but leaves the big butt.

For those of you going to tomorrow's surfrider dealio at 111 Minna, a bar over on Natoma called John Colins has a $2 happy hour and projects surf movies on the wall. I would like to pat myself on the back by saying that I can't go to 111 Minna because I'm taking CPR at red cross on 2nd & Bryant. And if any of you mother f'ers slash the tires on my bicyle for spot naming, I swear I will cry like a little girl scout, but like a hard girl scout from the street.

Announcement: My beloved wetsuit, Dr. Leaky, is no more. After spending sunday with the floss and a needle, I now have Frankensuit. Probably not much warmer, but will keep my gut flab from squishing out the torn seams.

Posted by: Andrew in Jack London at February 22, 2006 10:27 PM

just got wind that e is planning on shutting the site down. no more updates. please continue posting on this thread.

Posted by: at February 23, 2006 12:55 AM

Jaques, where do you train? I'm curious: don't you think jiu jitsu is kind of an incomplete art if you can't take your opponent down, especially in a "non gym scenario"? What if every time you balk with your fake side kick to disguise a shot at a single-leg I don't bite on the fake and end up kneeing you in the face? Or I simply avoid your shot and pick you apart with a distanced stand up attack? Can you realistically hope to pull guard on someone in the craggy Four Mile parking lot?

Jiu Jitsu is an amazing art, and I train it regularly, but it's not the only thing I train. It's unrealisitc to think you can rely on it in the "real world" as a complete self-defense art. If you're in a crowded bar, and some big drunk frat guy is feeling frisky, do you think you're side choke him standing next to the bartender? You better learn how to at least *dodge* a right hook before you think of anything else.

I enjoy learning and broadening my skills in jiu jitsu as well, but the pecking order that exists in most gyms is as unfounded as those that exist in many of our lineups. A bunch of these guys, of all races and nationalities, puff their chests out when they reach blue belt, like they can take on the world. But the reality is they have no idea how to even avoid a punch, let alone throw one.

With all that said, jiu jitsu, in and of itself, is really frickin' cool. And what it all basically boils down to is a bunch of guys hugging each other, which is what I really think we should be doing anyway. ;)

Posted by: at February 23, 2006 03:19 AM

OK, then e please make your final post before shutting down. And tell us why? The over exposure of surfing? Why do we need to talk about it and just shut up and surf? Where else can we go to procastinate working?

Posted by: at February 23, 2006 08:43 AM

wanna buy a bridge?

Posted by: Gullible Alert at February 23, 2006 09:29 AM

Any style, anyone, anywhere, anytime.
Jiu jitsu is a core component of any self defense training these days. To point it out on it's own is stupid.
Cheap shots in bar fights shouldn't even be mentioned for arguments sake. Nor should a multiple opponents scenario.
Also it's a fact that you need an awful lot of training to have much effective skill in boxing or with leg strikes to really have any advantage over a skilled BJJ tactician. Do you really think a BJJ fighter is gonna get picked apart by your weak standup or not falling for their front kick shoot approach? The only way to know is to square off so take your hypotheticals elsewhere Mr. know it all.
It always comes down to heart anyway. Which is why the 4 mile psycho has you fucking pansies peeing in your pant's and flocking to the dojo's. But the dojo's can only teach you to kick, punch, choke or submit. They can never teach you to FIGHT or how to spit our your tooth and blood, clear your head while protecting yourself, gain composure and rely on your training to wait for an opportunity or tire your opponent out. They can't train you to go 110% the minute the fight starts, to be unconcerned about police, or getting struck, to see white, but be focused on vanquishing your opponent with such speed and devastation that your well being is no longer at risk from him. I'm not talking about wrestling him down and getting on top and saying "do you give?" I'm talking about if a fight is inevitable, crushing your attacker immediately and in a way that they are incapacitated. Unable to pose any furhter threat.
Fighters are born. It's what's inside. Sure assfinger 4 mile psycho probably has no fighting skills but he's playing the odds.
The odds are 99% of the readers/complainers on this blog are straight up pussies. And if Psycho bet's wrong that 1 time out of 100....he's got his gang to back him up.
So he's pathetic and not worthy of respect. But he will continue to intimidate and scare you cunts from the city until you show him he can not.


Posted by: Jiu Jitsu Motto at February 23, 2006 09:35 AM

BVB,

I'm heading down to LA this weekend. I don't want to stand out like a sore thumb. What should I wear & drive? Smirk on my face? Bad boy image or Kelly Slater style? HELP!!

Skip

Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2006 09:44 AM

are you . . . . chuck norris???

Posted by: kloo at February 23, 2006 09:46 AM

Skip, here is the look I prefer, at least when dining in fine restaurants.

Thank you for your question.

Posted by: BVB automated attire response at February 23, 2006 09:52 AM

Most of the peeps named "Skip" I know have a perma smirk on thier face.

Posted by: Biff Johnson at February 23, 2006 09:59 AM

testosterone overload man. we're not fucking apes...or wait, are we? as a sanctioned and refereed competitive event, i can hear your words as an accurate description of successful ultimate fighting, and it seems the best ultimate fighters are trained in several styles based around a core of BJJ, so props to that as the most affective in that arena. i mean, boxers sit there and just bash each others brains out with no control/holds to protect themselves....

but on the street? inevitable fight? when is a confrontation about fucking SURFING inevitably lead to a fight? yeah, i'm a pussy, but you're a moron. yes, you will be the king of the apes....in prison, with lots of other big beefy men who are "focused on vanquishing you". have fun....but i guess the whole bjj thing is about "rolling" with other sweaty dudes anyway so maybe that's what you're after...

wtf has happened here? i say more hot babes, more stoked surf session tales, more sic surf pics, more cool art/paintings, more funny links and less of this stupid fucking aggression. take it to aggroville. i mean, a little shit talking and baiting here and there is kinda fun, to see the newbies get worked up over the trolls, but all this calling out and "i'll be at your door in 30 mintues"....are you still in high school? do you watch alot of action hero movies? not getting laid much eh? haven't gotten out of that outter aves fog much lately eh?

sheesh, it's called NICENESS.ORG.

my .02 cents. E please ignore the haters and keep up the noble cause of surfing/babe/chat /positive expression/procrastination forum

Posted by: mk1201 at February 23, 2006 09:59 AM

c'mon e, keep keeping it real.

Posted by: 3to5setsof7 at February 23, 2006 10:06 AM

uh, sorry, but while taking a dump a couple days ago I thought to myself "e should just forget this whole blog crap and take a nice long vacation"

Posted by: Chuck Norris at February 23, 2006 10:07 AM

needles, that is sick...but funny.

i'm 33 years old and have never been in a fight. so why the hell should I train to 'vanquish' someone?

Posted by: rza at February 23, 2006 10:10 AM

mk1201
I simply point out the facts. If those words frighten you, I suggest you spend less time complaining and actually do something about your fears.
I know the law. I know that all fights outside of a competitive arena can never be won. I understand violence is stupid. However, my training and skills make me a non violent person. The last time some fool got aggressive, loud and approaced me I politely advised him to remove himself from my space, that if he entered in to anywhere within a 6 foot circumference there would be consequences.
Of course he had his gang around and foolishly continued on towards me and the safety zone that I had advised him was breached, upon which I quickly kicked him straight in the stomach knocking his wind and struck him in the face immediatly swelling his eye. I then retreated and advised him again to not come in my space.
Why do you think I am a "moron" an "ape"? I warned my attacker I was serious. I utilized my preparedness and skills when needed. I controlled an aggressor in an aggressive situation. I immobilized him quickly in the case that I would have to quickly dispose of one of his friends and for shock value so that his friends would immediately recognize the situation as dire?
Didn't they attempt to use fear as a weapon on me? I turned the fear around on them and my person and property remained safe.
If I was an ape, wouldn't I have then continue to beat my downed opponent?

Posted by: at February 23, 2006 10:14 AM

fear. shock value. like the "shock and awe" campaign? you are obviously a skilled fighter and i don't know you so i shouldn't judge you as a moron, but all i'm hearing is justification for your aggressive behaviour and eagerness to prove how badass you are. that to me seems moronic.

i've trained some so i'm not totally clueless. i'm not afraid of those words or you because i'm far away and when i run into people like you i just walk away and laugh, usually try to get laid instead of grapple with some dude. got that out of my system and got my priorities straight in HIGH SHCOOL bro.

my point is, why do you have to draw the line if not cornered? seems like you're only trying to prove something to yourself no? since you are trained and are totally able to defend yourself if truly cornered with no way out, why not just laugh, keep it light, dissolve?

Posted by: mk1201 at February 23, 2006 11:17 AM

ps. sactomex and kaiser for presidents of the blog!

Posted by: mk1201 at February 23, 2006 11:23 AM

(I'm sorry to have brought up the jiu jitsu stuff, and the tone is these posts is exactly what I don't like about jiu jitsu. The art itself is incredibly fun, but the violence sometimes - rarely but sometimes - associated with it sucks. In point of fact though, it's usually not people who actually train who are like this, it's more often people who dabble in it or who just flat out overdose on watching UFC and Pride on TV and internet. The people at the academies tend to be awesome, with only a very few exceptions.)

Posted by: Jaques Haas at February 23, 2006 01:48 PM

I just oblige the folks that are asking. And I think I make the world a safer place for the meek. I always explain to the aggressors that they should never underestimate an opponent. And to quit there reign of terror since obviously they can not back it up.

Posted by: Jiu Jitsu Moto at February 23, 2006 02:41 PM
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