E's Surf Report: surfable, maye even fun... but.. the dream is over.

ahhh....back to fog and onshores. i figured as much as i looked at the western sky and felt the breeze late last night.

at least it makes weathering my spasmed back a little easier. turns out that the epic times at VFers yesterday came at a personal cost. it's a chronic injury that occassionally flares up (anybody else experience this?/have suggested prevention remedies?). sucks, but usually heals itself in a few days...hopefully just in time for a return of the morning glass!

in the meantime, good luck finding some niceness out there!

Posted by: ck at May 22, 2003 10:10 AM

ck-

I've had it happen twice to me, and when it did I was completely laid out. Felt like somebody had poured concrete into my back - couldn't stand up for a day. The funny thing is, it's happened from pretty innocuous activity (turning my head and neck in an extreme way and coughing really hard for example). But when it happens it completely immobilizes me. Best thing to do is to not lay down all day. . Keep the blood circulating to it by walking around or getting wet in the ocean. If you're sedentary, it stiffens up, it doesn't get proper blood flow and you start the cycle over again.

Oh, and take lots of Vicodin. ;)

be

Posted by: be at May 22, 2003 10:33 AM

ck-one word for you - YOGA, I used to have serious chronic back problems...now I have none. Tried to rally after an early morning call, but the onshores persuaded me otherwise. Christian-glad you at least got in the water after missing the past few days...don't worry, it was fun..not epic! hope you all have a great long weekend. any suggestions of where to take my girl surfing in Mendocino next weekend, we will be up there and need something kind of mellow. any help would be appreciated - matt

Posted by: matt at May 22, 2003 10:41 AM

CK/BE - Just got more treatment on my neck this week from the PT as well. In terms of what causes these "old man" injuries: sitting at your computer and staring at a screen all day! That is the #1 cause for it. Stretch, move, blood flow - those are the keys to maintaining free movements. He said I do more strain to my neck and back sitting all day than getting pounded surfing. Prolonged sitting and then shore poundage aren't a good combo. Keep it loose.

For the lower back, the "cobra" yoga-type pose is the best. Stretch the lower back out and relieves the tension.

For the neck, the equivalent exercise is the "pie-face". Neck straight, back straight, pull your chin in, straight back (not down or up) as if you were getting hit in the face with a pie Bill Gates style, sort of like making a double chin. Should feel a slight stretch in the mid-neck area.

Anyway, free advise from my buddy at PhysioTherpy Assoc. on 42nd and Vicente. Hit 'em up if you get busted up!

Posted by: Kaiser at May 22, 2003 10:43 AM

Muscle spasms in the back are the strangest things. be's right about it happening from innocuous activities--I've had it happen leaning forward in a strange way on the sofa to take a bite of sandwich. I'm no doctor but I've found the best way to avoid them is to stay hydrated and keep your midsection strengthened. It seems like the only times I've ever had muscle spasms in my back are when I've been dehydrated.

Posted by: mwsf at May 22, 2003 10:43 AM

ck

Just to echo be's comments on the back as I have had the same thing as well...make sure you keep it moving. Try to do some back stretch's or whatever you can. Then when you're better, try doing some yoga stretch's everyday in addition to some low impact stomach crunch's. I ended up going to see an orthopedist (who also happens to surf OB)last time this happened to me and he basically said the only way to keep the back working is to keep the abs surrounding muscles in good shape. He literally said I should do 500, yes 500, crunches each day. And 100 knee to chest stretch's and 100 pelvic tilts. Brutal, but it works. That's my 2 cents anyhoooo. good luck.

jdz

Posted by: jdz at May 22, 2003 10:44 AM

Damn...look at all the people who posted in roughly a 2 minute period about back problems!!! Ain't getting old a bitch!!!

Posted by: jdz at May 22, 2003 10:46 AM

speedy recovery to you ck.. everybody's advice sounds great.. Us 8-hour-a-day screen-jockeys really tax the back and neck areas.. For me stretching/yoga, cross-training (skating, hiking, biking, tennis), diet (less meat, more veggies, less chips, more fruit), and just a general body-awareness during the day have kept me relatively injury-free these last few years of 200+ day-a-year surfing.. (KNOCK ON WOOD!!!)...

a speedy recovery to you my friend! and all you other laid-up surfers..

matt.. a good place to take your lady surfing in mendo is right in the town of mendocino.. a spot called mendocino bay (i think).. it's kindof a rivermouth/beach-break setup tucked way way into this bay.. if there's not enough swell it might be flat but usually it's small and pleasant, with predominately glassy conditions as it's protected from northwest winds. I scored a fun session there a few months ago.. with just windswell in the ocean..

Posted by: e at May 22, 2003 10:56 AM

thanx for the tips, amigos! totally associate with the onset from innocuous activity. i've DEFINITELY experienced that. i do stretch regularly...albeit somewhat half-heartedly. following an injury, i'm all disciplined, but then i get lazy and start taking short-cuts. guess i gotta get better about that. i've never given yoga a try...but all the endorsement here is a clear testament that i should.

btw...jdz...500 crunches each day!...gawd damn!

Posted by: ck at May 22, 2003 10:58 AM

Has anyone surfed around Zihuatanejo (mainland), MX recently? I'm heading there on Sat for a week and I'm really torn on whether to bring some sticks with me (expensive thru Alaska) or rent some when I get there. The owner of the place where I'm staying insists that he has all the equipment I need but you know that routine. Do any of you have experience or insight you would be willing to provide on this area and if there are places to rent good equipment? Forcast next week is showing some big SW coming in so I want to be ready for this. Give it up for a 1st timer.

Posted by: Bug at May 22, 2003 11:25 AM

ck - I have to be honest and tell you that I only do about 150 crunch's on a good day. But there was a period after my last back injury that I was adhering to the regime. I was very motivated as I was very scared about not being able to surf. It is very difficult to do everyday. It just is. Unless you are incredibly diciplined. But just do as much as you can and keep surfing.

-jdz

Posted by: jdz at May 22, 2003 11:32 AM

Hey MATT,
Nah I am not the dude with the red wetsuit. I pretty much hate that guy. Wannabe hard ass with the permanent scowlwho has not been there very long but seems to act as if he has been there 10 years. I am the guy with the black wetsuit and likely a CI surfboard. You must know who I am now right!! Hah. Just kidding. But my CI is painted light blue. Anyway thanks for the elbow comments. Soon I think I can surf again.
HEY BUG ! There are actually a lot of boards down at the places you stay near Zihaut. especially if you are a longboarder. If not then pay the $50 to take your own board. The waves are great there but all have a kind of mushy aspect to them so take a beefier board. It is just not hollow and super fast but I have defenitely had some of the best rides of my life there. Too bad it sounds like more and more people are going there for surf trips these days. Have fun.

Posted by: cbarney at May 22, 2003 11:44 AM

CBarney,
It's bug. Thanks for your info. I am staying at
manzanillo bay, and I hope to surf mainly La Saladita and El Rancho, and maybe some of the points around Manzanillo Bay that are steeper they say. The forcast is calling for a pretty large S/SW next week (allweek) and the swell should be up--same swell will reach up here next week it looks like. Most of the spots I listed above are great longboarding areas when the swells are running normal (3-5 ft) but if it's
bigger, would you want a semi-gun or bigger
shortboard? Or will these spots still stay soft for longboarding? Any insight from you would be great. If all I need is a longboard/funboard, then I will rent and save the hassle and $. But if those spots bump up and are shortboardable, I don't want to surf a longboard.
I think the crowds might be heavy at times, for the very reason you mentioned on Niceness. I'm a perfect example of this.
Thanks again,
Bug

Posted by: Bug at May 22, 2003 12:02 PM

christian - glad to hear that Mother Ocean treated you better than expected! always especially cool when it works out like that.

also, i'd like to echo your stoke re the support of the niceness crew. i was shocked to see so many postings with great advice in such short-order! thanks, again, all.

Posted by: ck at May 22, 2003 12:05 PM

hey y'all,
i actually had a few fun ones this morning too, it started to shut down as i was leaving at around 9:45 but some fun little zippy rides i love feeling all salty at work..
my 2 cents on the back no ones seemed to mention yet; acupuncture..my old roomate tweaked his back and was considering surgery..he got acupuncture treatments instead and took care of himself (stretching ect.) and hes all good now..he swears by it..

Posted by: bagel at May 22, 2003 12:35 PM

noonthirty report -- way more decent than it looks. Met Cloude at VF'ers by chance. He had to split, but I paddled out. Happy to say that the wind still hasn't totally killed it. I agree with Christian -- it feels like a bit of south has shown up. If you waited long enough, definite meat rolled through. Even a few barrels. Made me totally appreciate Ian or Jake or (sorry) whoever commented yesterday on enjoying taking off on the closeouts for the few (milli)seconds of altered reality.

Is it cool or uncool to post party info here? I heard about a heady little party tomorrow eve at Simple Pleasures on Balboa then moving to the beach @ Lincoln for bonfire, fire walking, etc. Let me know if you want deets.

Posted by: robme at May 22, 2003 12:54 PM

Bug.

I'm heading down this week as well so check your email.

Posted by: tom at May 22, 2003 01:13 PM

Hey film heads... not that there will be any surf of note in Cruzo this weekend, but there are showing a couple new films at the Rio Theatre tomorrow (and O'Neills sale starts tomorrow). Here's the scoopage:

May 23rd, 2003
RIDE-A-WAVE BENEFIT
Surf Movies! Shutter Speed and Green. Raffle prizes!! Surfboards, Wetsuits, Surf Paraphernalia (thanks JVK!) Proceeds to Benefit Ride-A-Wave.
Show time: 7:00pm
Tickets $10.00 at local surfshops, $12.00 at the door.
O'Neills, Arrow, Freeline, Paradise

Since I am older than dirt, I highly, highly recommend yoga. Without it, I think that I wouldn't be surfing right now. Surfing is really hard on your bod (just in case you haven't noticed). I recommend that everyone gets down to a class and gets religious about it. You will thank yourself when you are older.

-d (converted "I never need to stretch" dude)

P.S. Just ordered a new 6'0" modern fish to deal with our summer conditions. I can't wait! Swallow tail, 2x wings, flat rocker, semi-full rails, 19 1/4ish. Yippie! I'm such a surfboard freak.

Posted by: dano at May 22, 2003 02:00 PM

Damn e, you blew my cover! Hahaha...

Sounds like everyone is hooked up, but I know a great PT in San Fran, and another awesome one in Redwood city. Their goal is to see you in as few visits as possible, and they give specific stretching and exercises. Email if you want info.

Running off to ear appt at CEI Stanford - fyi I mention this because they are really cool about surfing, well worth the drive. Had REALLY lame experiences with other ENT's closer in.

Posted by: s.s. sharkbait at May 22, 2003 02:23 PM

Surf forecast

late season weak Aleutian juice - 14 second energy at our doorstep for Monday DP. Prolly 4-5 foot. A memorable Memorial Day present. Winds should be just as bad tomorrow, back off a little after that (ie: dp should become reasonable again Saturday on). Monday looks quite fun for a little NW groundswell.

some niceness to all

-Blake

Posted by: blakestah at May 22, 2003 02:37 PM

speaking of simple pleasures, how hot is the tall thin blonde chick behind the counter? droolity drool.

Posted by: bbr at May 22, 2003 02:49 PM

blakestah!!! that's what i'm talkin' about!!!
i'm noticing that the california buoy is 6ft 17seconds... can that be for real? fluke?

i might be down with the simple pleasures/bonfire friday night jam.. sounds like fun!

tom and bug! enjoy!! i'm wishing crazy double-overhead barrels for you two.. the kind were you hear it crashing all night.. then wake up in the morning with butterflies in your stomach.. knowing that you're gonna paddle out. scared shitless but psyched..

Posted by: e at May 22, 2003 03:06 PM

Who is the man? Blakestah's nice post... I love the forecast nuggets!

Looks like I will have to cut the Memorial Day festivities short and roll back for the potential DP Monday.

Posted by: Kaiser at May 22, 2003 03:10 PM

BUG,
I have surfed Z. @ 10 foot at the Ranch and was really starting to close (rights) at that size and I needed another foot of board as it was so fast so if indeed it is going to be big I would defenitely take a semi-gun. Waves are really rippable but size is size and it is not so mushy bigger. Take your board. What's $100 when you can use your own board all week!? Have fun..

Posted by: cbarney at May 22, 2003 03:14 PM

Holy sharp eyes, e, nice call on the California buoy. I don't watch the west Pacific that close, especially this time of year. Storm off Kamchatka around noon on the 17th. I just did the calc, and it seems to be the culprit. That means sparse sets (small fetch 3000 nautical miles out), starting after dark tonite, prolly 3-4 ft 17 sec - but you will definitely feel the sets every 15-20 minutes when they come through. Angle should be 300 degrees. This actually happens a few times each summer - small long period from near Japan hits us.

Given the wind, I'd suggest south of SF county, maybe south of San Mateo County. This one will be mostly tomorrow. I'll prolly pass on the drive given the sparse sets issue. But, for those closer to SC county, should be some fun ones tomorrow.

Posted by: blakestah at May 22, 2003 03:56 PM

Bug,

I say take your board(s). I made the mistake of taking my old shortboard (a slightly wide 6'6") instead of my normal 6'4" (that I didn't want to get banged up). Big mistake. Should have taken the board that I ride all the time and love. Definitely had too wide a sluggish a board.

Are there ever any "good" rentals or loaner boards?

-d

Posted by: dano at May 22, 2003 04:05 PM

Blakestah, that's some impressive forecasting. Sick.

Posted by: robme at May 22, 2003 04:19 PM

fyi if someone hasn't posted this already, most of Linda Bar is posted for high E.Coli levels..kinda sucks.

Posted by: scott at May 22, 2003 04:25 PM

cbarney-sorry for the mistaken identity, that guys not that bad, i think he's just scared someone's going to call his bluff, chat it up with him..he's cool, and one of not that many that actually surfs that place properly. later

Posted by: matt at May 22, 2003 04:57 PM

cbarney, dano, tom, etc...
I knew I could count on the niceness crew for a little advice and encouragement, I'm packing the sticks. Alaska says they charge per board, but I'm hoping the crew behind the counter isn't too knowledgable, and I'll try to shift my way through. $50 each way is way worth it. $100 each way is hard to swallow but I'll do it if I have to. I want to have the right stuff while I'm there. Kaiser is hooking me up with a coffin bag. I'll report back to everyone for future reference on what works and what doesn't.
Thanks everyone, Bug

Posted by: Bug at May 22, 2003 05:08 PM

Bug,

Few Alaska to Mexico last week with a coffin. I had my board and my bro's. Don't even mention the number of boards you are taking, just tell them you've got a surfboard as luggage (mine friend didn't get charged at all on one leg of the trip!).

-d

Posted by: dano at May 22, 2003 06:56 PM

I'm always the last one to post.. damnit..
ck- I'm sorry to hear about your back, I hope you a quick recovery! My dad's back gets tweaked a lot from construction and what not. He's laid out for days.
scott- E.Coli in linda mar water? That is fricken disgusting. I was just in it yesterday morning and I just feel contaminated thinking about it.
blakestah- thank you for the forecast. I'm sure I speak for all of us when I say that you make my day with nice swell postings.
e- good catch on the swell, blakestah got on it and made us all happy! :D
Bug- Have an AWESOME time dude! Try and get some pics! Just tell them your bags have... uhm... snowboards in them. They don't charge for snowboards, and uhm.. well.. since tons of people take snowboards to mex, they won't be suspicious :D

Posted by: Ian at May 22, 2003 07:10 PM

I am sitting here after experiencing a huge back spasm this morning. Its always the same muscle and I still remember the day it first happened many years ago, yes from surfing. I duck dove under a big wave and overstrained this particular muscle. Probably from not stretching and surfing a lot. I haven't been out much this summer and I went out last saturday and could feel the muscle a little sore, it gave out on me this morning, a week and a half later.

Stretching and strengthing is good but from what I've been reading, you need to allow at least 6 weeks for a heal sometimes longer. Then you have to deal with the scar tissue that builds up during the healing process. This tissue needs to be dealt with and can take a while to get the muscle back to normal. Evidently this is why it is a recurring nightmare. I don't know what the solution is but I am gathering it is going to take a lot of therapy time (not necessarily medical but personal and medical).

The more research I do, the more I learn.

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